<a href="https://bolavip.com/en/soccer/chivas-vs-club-america-date-time-and-tv-channel-in-the-us-for-clasico-nacional-in-liga-mx-2022-clausura-20220309-0039.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Chivas and América</a> have a rivalry that dates back to 1943 when <a href="https://bolavip.com/en/soccer/chivas-vs-club-america-lineups-for-clasico-nacional-in-liga-mx-2022-clausura-20220310-0026.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Chivas of Guadalajara defeated Club América</a> 1-0 in the Copa <a href="https://bolavip.com/en/soccer/the-15-worst-signings-in-liga-mx-history-20201230-0010.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mexico</a>. Since then, they have played 243times with América winning 88matches to Chivas 77.
Both clubs have won the most Mexican <a href="https://bolavip.com/en/soccer/liga-mx-violence-in-queretaro-almost-cost-mexico-2026-world-cup-hosting-rights-20220309-0011.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Liga MX</a> championships as América has 13 and Chivas 12. The two rivals have vastly different philosophies as América is considered the club of the wealthy, they are known to spend huge amounts of money for their players. While Chivas is a team known for its nationalism as they only field teams with Mexican nationals.
Still, 43players, all of Mexican nationality, have played for both clubs. Such big names as Ramón Ramírez, Gustavo Napoles, Ángel Reyna, Oribe Peralta, and Oswaldo Sánchez have played for both teams. Incredibly, only Francisco ‘Maza’ Rodríguez is the only player to win a championship with both clubs.
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<h2>Players that played for both Chivas andAmérica</h2>
Salvador Mota – with America: 1942–1944 / with Guadalajara: 1944–48
Carlos Iturralde – with Guadalajara: 1950–1951 / with America: 1952–1956
Eduardo Garduño – with America: 1947–1949 / with Guadalajara: 1954–1955
Raul Cardenas – with America: 1959–1960 / with Guadalajara: 1967–1968
Ramiro Navarro – with Guadalajara: 1965–1968 / with America: 1968–69
Sergio Ceballos – with America: 1968–1974 / with Guadalajara: 1976–1977
Enrique Vázquez del Mercado – with Guadalajara: 1969–1972 / with America: 1969–1970
Ruben Cardenas – with America: 1970–1973 / with Guadalajara: 1974–1980
Antonio Zamora – with America: 1970–1973 / with Guadalajara: 1975–1978
Francisco Macedo – with America: 1971–1973 / with Guadalajara: 1973–1974
Albino Morales – with America: 1972–1973 / with Guadalajara: 1973–74
Javier Sánchez Galindo – with Guadalajara: 1974–1975 / with America: 1975–1979
Javier Cárdenas – with America: 1978–1979 / with Guadalajara: 1979–1985
Javier Aguirre – with America: 1979–1984 / with Guadalajara: 1987–1993
Carlos Hermosillo – with America: 1st run in 1983–1989, 2nd run in 1999–2000 / with Guadalajara: 2001
Ricardo Peláez – with America: 1st run in 1985–1987, 2nd run in 1997–1998 / with Guadalajara: 1998–2000
Luis Manuel Diaz – with Guadalajara: 1983–1987 / with America: 1991–1992
Pedro Pineda – with Guadalajara: 1991–1992 / with America: 1st run in 1992–1995, 2nd run in 1996–1997
Gerardo Silva – with Guadalajara: 1990–1993 / with America: 1993–1994
Luis García – with America: 1995–1997 / with Guadalajara: 1998–1999
Oswaldo Sánchez – with America: 1996–1999 / with Guadalajara: 1999–2006
Ignacio Hierro – with America: 1997–1999 / with Guadalajara: 1999–2000
Damián Álvarez – with Guadalajara: 1998 / with America: 1998–2000
Gustavo Napoles – with Guadalajara: 1st run 1995–1998, 2nd run 2000–2002 / with America: 1999
Ramón Ramírez – with Guadalajara: 1st run 1994–1998, 2nd run 2002–2004 / with America: 1999
Joel Sánchez – with Guadalajara: 1st run 1993–1999, 2nd run 2001–2003 / with America: 1999–2000
Jesús Mendoza – with Guadalajara: 1999–2000 / with America: 1st run 2000–2002, 2nd run 2003–2005
Manuel Rios – with Guadalajara: 1998–2000 / with America: 2002
Alejandro Nava – with Guadalajara: 1st run 2000, 2nd run 2001–2002 / with America: 2002
Alvaro Ortiz – with Guadalajara: 1999–2000 / with America: 2002–2005
Christian Ramírez – with America: 2003–2004 / with Guadalajara: 2005–2006
Oribe Peralta – with Guadalajara: 2005 (loan), 2019–present / with America: 2014–2019
Edoardo Isella – with Guadalajara: 2000–2001 / with America: 2008
Luis Alonso Sandoval – with Guadalajara: 2002–2005 / with America: 2010
Luis Ernesto Perez – with America: 2007 (loan) / with Guadalajara: 2012–2016
Rafael Marquez Lugo – with America: 2008 / with Guadalajara: 2012–2015
Francisco Javier Rodriguez – with Guadalajara: 2002–2008 / with America: 2013–2014
Ángel Reyna – with America: 2009–2011 / with Guadalajara: 2014–2015
Alberto García Carpizo – with Guadalajara: 2014–2015 / with America: 2015
Jesús Molina – with America: 2011–2014 / with Guadalajara: 2019
Fernando Rubén González – with Guadalajara: 2013–2015 / with America: 2019
José Madueña – with América: 2014-2015 / with Guadalajara: 2020
Alejandro Zendejas – with Guadalajara: 2016–2018 / with America: 2022
In regard to coaching, 8 managers have coached both teams over the years. Walter Ormeño and Oscar Ruggeri played for Club América and would then coach both teams in their careers on the bench. Ricardo La Volpe managed both teams on two occasions with little success on both accounts.
Walter Ormeño – América (1969–1970); Guadalajara (1972–1973)
Miguel Ángel López – América (1984–1987 &amp; 1992–1993); Guadalajara (1989–1991)
Carlos Miloc – Guadalajara (1979–1980); América (1991)
Ricardo La Volpe – Guadalajara (1989 &amp; 2014); América (1996 &amp; 2016–2017)
Leo Beenhakker – América (1994–1995 &amp; 2003–2004); Guadalajara (1996)
Oscar Ruggeri – Guadalajara (2001–2002); América (2004)
Ignacio Ambríz – Guadalajara (2012); América (2015–2016)
Luis Fernando Tena – América (2006-2007); Guadalajara (2019-2020)

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